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		<title>Propped Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Original image found at LA Times Here&#8217;s an itemized list of things that Prop 8 in California has accomplished for their citizens since it passed by 52% of the vote in November 2008: Divided residents of the Golden State pretty much in half. Spent millions of dollars on legal fees, posters, lost work time, police [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef016761e6a591970b-640wi" alt="Prop 8 overturned" /><br />
<small>Original image found at <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/gay-marriage-prop-8s-ban-ruled-unconstitutional.html" title="Prop 8 Overturned" target="_blank">LA Times</a></small></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an itemized list of things that Prop 8 in California has accomplished for their citizens since it passed by 52% of the vote in November 2008:</p>
<ul>
<li>Divided residents of the Golden State pretty much in half.</li>
<li>Spent millions of dollars on legal fees, posters, lost work time, police force staffing for public protests &#8211; just to name some of the costs</li>
<li>Took those costs away from services that are beneficial to all citizens like police protection for real crimes being committed, feeding the hungry, clothing the needy, job creation efforts &#8211; just to name a few.</li>
<li>Divided families that were forced to choose between their gay or lesbian child or their belief that same-sex marriage would be the modern day Armageddon that destroyed the universe.</li>
<li>The number of other manufactured lies that clever writers created to enshrine their narrow-minded beliefs about gays and lesbians.</li>
<li>Reduced revenues for weddings, divorces, marriage license fees and other revenue generating activities that heterosexuals already contribute to as tax-paying citizens of the state.</li>
<li>Donated hours and hours of producing ads, posters, protests, etc&#8230; that could have been spent towards helping the less fortunate, the less abled and those that needed real help in improving their lives.</li>
<li>Efforts towards completely erasing inequality decreased instead of increasing and removing the divide that our country has a history of for centuries.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Looking Forward</h3>
<p>Now that this decision has come down, it moves to the Supreme Court, where the following will happen:</p>
<ul>
<li>More division in the citizens of California</li>
<li>More money spent on legal fees</li>
<li>More families divided apart</li>
<li>Increased police support for further public gatherings and protests</li>
<li>More time before loving couples can be legally married to each other</li>
<li>Increased hate and bigoted attitudes towards gays and lesbians</li>
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<p>Seth MacFarlane <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/SethMacFarlane/status/166957049844998146" title="Twitter Seth" target="_blank">said it best</a> today on Twitter:</p>
<blockquote><p>Prop 8 architects:  Every civil rights battle is eventually won by the oppressed party.  Save your hundred mil and buy some Bud platinum.</p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;s right. History shows those who oppose granting equality and civil rights to others eventually lose their battle. We&#8217;ve spent years fighting against women and blacks. But in the end, they eventually were recognized and granted civil rights&#8230; marriage rights, even.  So it shall be for the gays and lesbians of this country.  There&#8217;s a long battle ahead still, but history is on our side.</p>
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		<title>Sanctimoniously Speaking</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martymankins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing up in Orange County, I remember my mom talking about other people. Mostly good, rarely directly to them, always vocally sharing her opinions to at least herself, but often to a select few. They were never meant to be harmful, just meant as vocal commentary. I always wondered what some of these people had [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in Orange County, I remember my mom talking about other people.  Mostly good, rarely directly to them, always vocally sharing her opinions to at least herself, but often to a select few.  They were never meant to be harmful, just meant as vocal commentary.</p>
<p>I always wondered what some of these people had done to elicit such commentary.  Did they cut her off in traffic?  Were they rude to her in line at the grocery store?  Had they somehow embarrassed her in a public setting?  While I understand the above scenarios can generate an immediate opinion, they should never be intended as a permanent response to others like them.</p>
<p>This is not to say that I am placing a discriminatory label on my mom.  Not even close.  What I am saying is that when you get in a habit of treating select groups of people a certain way, it somehow becomes acceptable.</p>
<h4>Core Values</h4>
<p>The core values that make up a person are related to how you treat others.  But there can be diversions placed in between your true feelings and what you physically broadcast to the rest of society.</p>
<p>There are times when people react to situations and end up saying things that are similar to the opinions of others you associate with. Yet inside, they wonder why they said such a thing verbally to another person.  True, some people really do translate exactly what they feel inside and express it outwardly &#8211; in sadness, happiness, hatred or disgust.  But in general, those immediate peers can be influential when verbally expressing one&#8217;s thoughts, ignoring your true feelings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s how we treat and deal with others that are different than us that is something I question.</p>
<h4>Court Decision</h4>
<p>Yesterday, a key decision was made in California by their Supreme Court on the validity of Proposition 8, last year&#8217;s ballot measure that placed a ban on same-sex marriage in that state, after being legal for over four months.  By a vote of 6-1, the court decided that the passage of Prop 8 was valid and will be kept in place, barring any future ballot measures brought up for vote to the people.</p>
<p>Although devastating news to future same-sex couples of California who wish to marry, there was a positive outcome from the court&#8217;s other decisions.  The 18,000 same-sex couples who were legally married from June 16th to November 3rd, 2008 remain legally married.  A sound decision that continues to protect legally married same-sex couples.</p>
<h4>Equal Protection</h4>
<p>Given this recent court decision, there is a outstanding question that needs to be answered: what protections do unmarried same-sex couples have in California?  According to <a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&#038;group=00001-01000&#038;file=297-297.5" target="_blank">California Family Code 297.5</a>, there are a lot, almost as much as a legally binding marriage.  There are some exceptions, but for the most part, it&#8217;s pretty close to marriage. [<small><strong>NOTE</strong>: Click <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_California" target="_blank">here</a> for the Wiki page on Calif Domestic Partner benefits and rights.]</small></p>
<h4>Close, But Not Complete</h4>
<p>But close means not all of the legal benefits are there.  Which is why there is a push to make sure all of the included legal benefits for married couples will be part of the California Domestic Partnership law.  While this is commendable, it raises a bigger question: why create a completely separate set of laws and legal benefits just for same-sex couples?  All of the separate paperwork, laws, forms, details&#8230;  it seems redundant compared to allowing same-sex couples to legally marry like any heterosexual couple, not to mention being equal and fair.</p>
<p>Gay marriage is a heated and sensitive topic, very much like abortion and stem cell research.  Those that follow me on Facebook and saw <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=554473323&#038;v=feed&#038;story_fbid=93937959024" target="_blank">my response to yesterday&#8217;s Supreme Court decision</a> already know this is a very divisive subject.  There are arguments on both sides of the issue that are either very convincing or just outright childish.  I&#8217;m very opened minded and listen to all sides of the debate, but when it comes down to the very heart of the matter, there should be only one question: Should everyone be treated equally when it comes to marriage rights?  In this person&#8217;s honest opinion, the answer is yes.</p>
<h4>Separate, Not Equal</h4>
<p><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/3568663922_3528f19988.jpg?v=0" alt="Separate is never equal" /><br />
<small>Original photo <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antichrista/3568663922/" target="_blank">link</a> &#8211; from Flickr user <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/antichrista/" target="_blank">anti_christa</a></small></p>
<p>Many have offered arguments on why they do not want gays to legally share the term &#8216;marriage&#8217; with them &#8211; religious, traditional, financial or a concern over future laws that may go too far&#8230; the list is almost endless.  Regardless of the reasons, it leaves me asking some serious and valid questions:  Why the fear?  Why the concern?  Why is it ok to have something separate to contain rights?  Is it the &#8220;ick factor&#8221;?  If so, why are people that focused on what goes on in other people&#8217;s bedrooms?</p>
<p>People in general are resistant to change.  There&#8217;s an unknown factor that they are not sure of.  And I can understand that.  But change has been part of society for centuries now.  We evolve.  People adjust.  Things move forward.  This isn&#8217;t the stone age where the males club the females over the head and drag them off by their hair.  We treat people fairly, or at least we should.  Everyone wants to know that they live in a country where they are not the outcast.  They are included.  Not everyone is against people having rights, just what they deem is acceptable.  They don&#8217;t want gays sharing marriage with them, so they support something different to be created.  That&#8217;s not about protecting the sanctity of marriage.  That&#8217;s making sure someone different from them doesn&#8217;t have to share the same rights.  If all of this is sounding very familiar, it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s history repeating itself.</p>
<p>Throughout time, people have been discriminated against for a variety of reasons, but mostly it&#8217;s been males in obtaining greed and power, while hiding behind their insecurities.  The fight for gay equality is just another cog in the wheel of human treatment.  Women and blacks have been through it and we&#8217;ve seen major strides for them over the last few decades.  Gays and lesbians will see the same steps forward.  Until then, we can accept nothing less than equal treatment under the laws, including marriage.</p>
<p>Discrimination, on any level, is just plain wrong.  Some support it by hiding behind a barrier of belief or religion.  Others use it as a source to validate their method of segregating others different from them.  Sometimes it&#8217;s innocent, other times it&#8217;s intentional.  Regardless of the reason, it&#8217;s unacceptable and needs to be stopped.</p>
<h4>To Those Who Oppose Same-Sex Marriage</h4>
<p>We only ask for one thing: Stop working to deny people their proper rights.  Stop trying to create something separate.  Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract.  It should not be exclusive to any one group, religion or belief.  It&#8217;s a civil act that should be available to committed and loving people that want the benefits and protections of being in a recognized relationship.  It&#8217;s not going to get ruined or destroyed by allowing it to be open to others different than you.</p>
<p>A phrase that I&#8217;ve used in my life for many years is something I feel would be good to end this on:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;At the end of the day, we are all human.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Propped Up On 8</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martymankins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, this is a political blog post, but I&#8217;ll keep it short and to the point. VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION 8 I am a heterosexual male that is passionate about human rights. The constitution, the Bill of Rights and other laws and guidelines our founding fathers set up were created to extend rights to people. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yep, this is a political blog post, but I&#8217;ll keep it short and to the point.</p>
<h1>VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION 8</h1>
<p><img src="http://www.eqca.org/atf/cf/%7B34F258B3-8482-4943-91CB-08C4B0246A88%7D/NO-ON-8-BANNER-STOP-SM.GIF" alt="Vote NO on 8" /></p>
<p>I am a heterosexual male that is passionate about human rights.  The constitution, the Bill of Rights and other laws and guidelines our founding fathers set up were created to extend rights to people.  In June 2008, California became the second state in the nation to allow marriage for same-sex couples.  Now many groups are pouring large amounts of money, time, energy and effort into removing that, redefining marriage to an exclusive group of people.  They call this &#8220;the right thing do&#8221;.  I call it pure and utter discrimination.</p>
<p>I know people are concerned.  Maybe some are naive about this and just want to &#8220;protect marriage&#8221;.  Others have serious issues against those that are part of the GLBT communities and just want to &#8220;stop the perversion&#8221;.  Whatever your reason for supporting this proposition, please take a moment and consider the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>No heterosexual marriages will be dissolved.  Your marriages will not be affected by allowing same-sex couples to marry.  Nothing will change.</li>
<li>No church will be forced to marry a same-sex couple.</li>
<li>Schools are not forcing children to learn how to be a homosexual.  Stop thinking this.  It&#8217;s dumb and it&#8217;s stupid.</li>
<li>If you are a member of a church that&#8217;s supporting this, you have the right to disagree.  That is an alienable human right to think how you want and with your own conscience.  If your heart tells you one thing, but your preachers and leaders tell you something else, follow your heart.</li>
<li>If you have to think of a reason to vote NO and can&#8217;t remove any other reason, look at it from a civil point of view.  As a tax-paying adult, you expect certain rights and privileges.  How would you feel if a group of people came in and wanted to vote away one of your civil rights?  This is regarding something civil.  Marriage is civil, plain and simple.  It&#8217;s not exclusive to a church or race.</li>
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<p>There&#8217;s so much more I can go on about, but I don&#8217;t want to labor this subject.  This should be a no brainer.  Today, it only affects Californians.  But in the end, it affects everyone&#8230;. maybe even a loved one or a close friend.  Don&#8217;t let discrimination go any further.  It&#8217;s happened to too many states already.  Keep California Legal.  If you live there, I urge you to consider the above and consider voting NO on Proposition 8.</p>
<p>Check out the following site for links to sites against Prop 8: <a href="http://www.californiansagainsthate.com/index.html" target="_blank">Californians Against Hate</a></p>
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