Comments on: Sanctimoniously Speaking

By: martymankins

martymankins — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:00:12 +0000

dave2 – Actually Ren just said what I wanted to. People believe that their beliefs are true and need to be enforced for everyone. They often use the logic (if you can call it that) that regardless if someone doesn’t believe something, it doesn’t make their belief invalid. For example, over on my Facebook status debate, someone left a comment with the following “Whether or not we believe it anymore doesn’t change the truth of it.” So using that mantra, they want laws enacted to support this “truth” regardless of who believes it to be true or not. It’s why any argument for equality falls on their deaf ears because they don’t see it any other way.

ren – Thanks for your comment and for saying what I would have.

By: Ren

Ren — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:32:27 +0000

Dave2 – I *think* that the logic is something like “codifying the sinful behavior is condoning it”. Note that there are plenty of people that think alcohol should be illegal (just look at how many “dry” counties we have here in Texas), abortion should be illegal, and I bet there are people that think pre-marital sex should be illegal, even between consenting, heterosexual adults.

It really isn’t much of a leap for many people to feel that their own beliefs are *true* and should be enforced by law. I’m almost certain that despite any public statements to the contrary, a large portion of the people that are against gay marriage would be perfectly happy if we still had anti-sodomy laws and the like. Heck, I think some states actually still do have those laws, though I seem to recall Texas’ being overthrown by the courts a few years back.

By: Dave2

Dave2 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:47:22 +0000

I have tried for years to understand exactly why it is that people feel threatened by the idea of gay marriage. Exactly how does it affect straight marriage in any way? Some states already have gay marriage… many countries do… California even had it for a while… did anything change for married straights? Did they start exploding or something? What? WHAT?!?

By: martymankins

martymankins — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:57:27 +0000

kilax – I know what you mean, Kim. Very hard to see why some have a hard time with this. I know there’s some ingrained teachings and some of it may seem valid to them, but it’s another human being and until they see that, they may always go through life with blinders on.

By: kilax

kilax — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:56:53 +0000

It disgusts me that some people are so deeply tied to discrimination. It’s the only way they know to live their lives. I am hoping that with time, people will become more accepting. Now I am being discriminatory against age, but I hope you know what I mean. We just can’t seem to change people’s minds. These are the people I try to avoid.

By: martymankins

martymankins — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:52:33 +0000

kapgar – Thank you. And yes, out of the bad came some good.

lesombre – Thank you.

By: LeSombre

LeSombre — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:19:13 +0000

Well done.

By: kapgar

kapgar — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:06:32 +0000

Nicely done. And thanks for pointing out about the marriages that were upheld in California. I forgot to mention that one.

By: martymankins

martymankins — Fri, 29 May 2009 03:11:42 +0000

sybil law – Thank you.

penelope – Thanks. And of course nothing will happen. It’s just committed people living their lives like they did before they could get married.

nilsa – you are most welcome.

tori – Thank you. I think it boils down to a control issue. It bothers people that something they don’t want is happening. Answering the deep inside question of WHY they don’t want it, it’s as I said above… peers driving something that they really don’t feel the same way inside.

kevin Thanks. And yes, you are correct. Live and let live. If they are not doing anything to hurt or take anything away from you, then why is there a concern?

john – Thank you, John. I like you ending assessment. People in general are not great communicators. Being able to translate that to something intelligible is even more rare.

seals – Much appreciated. So far, I think most of the idiot responders are stuck over on Blogography.com

alex – Thank you, Alex. And how can I turn down a Slurpee.

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 28 May 2009 23:59:20 +0000

Excellent post, Sir!

I’m gonna buy you a Slurpee tomorrow

By: Seals

Seals — Thu, 28 May 2009 19:10:58 +0000

Very well done.

I mainly clicked on the comments to see if there were any idiot responses yet.

By: John

John — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:20:46 +0000

Great post Marty. : )

RE: “…But in general, those immediate peers can be influential when verbally expressing one’s thoughts, ignoring your true feelings.”

Even when intentions are good, most people are notoriously bad communicators. Very few people have the ability to express precisely what they mean, and even fewer can do it tactfully.