Comments on: Propped Up On 8

By: martymankins

martymankins — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:59:23 +0000

tori – I know, it really gets me wondering about some people and their focus. And it’s not a choice. Since when do others get to vote on the rights of consenting adults when it really doesn’t even effect them.

By: radioactive tori

radioactive tori — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:37:03 +0000

I don’t even understand why this is an issue. Seriously. This is what people are choosing to fight about? Treating others with respect and giving everyone the same rights no matter what gender they are attracted to? I wasn’t aware that should be a choice. As long as it involves two of age consenting people, they should be allowed to marry if they want to.

By: martymankins

martymankins — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:24:44 +0000

kevin – Thanks for that link to Arizona’s Prop 102. That family sound like real winners with that car. There’s a lot of Mormons in Arizona, and I’m sure they are doing their best to raise every last dollar to pass this. I read more about it and it looks like same-sex marriage is already illegal in the state. So they want to make it extra-illegal if this passes? I’m rolling my eyes at this. As you said, let people live their lives and worry about their own.

ajooja – Agreed. I will never understand either.

kilax – I really wish I knew what people were afraid of. Nothing gets changed. Even some of these people that talk about how this will be “taught in the schools” I wish they would look at the details instead of trying to distort the facts. Some people will always find their prejudiced group to fight against.

By: kilax

kilax — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:03:43 +0000

What are people afraid of? Homosexual marriage is not going to hurt heterosexuals in marriage. Sigh. Sometimes I am surprised how prejudiced people still are. I forget.

By: ajooja

ajooja — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:24:53 +0000

I’ll never understand how ignorance and prejudice can be taught in church or promoted by a political party. Fucking Republicans. Sheesh.

By: Kevin Spencer

Kevin Spencer — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:02:52 +0000

There’s a similar thing here in Arizona, Prop 102. There’s a family 3 doors down from me and they’ve painted their car with “vote yes on 102″ and “marriage is only between a man and a woman” slogans.

Oh yeah, it’s classy alright. Whenever I see it I just roll my eyes. It’s like they think the whole world will end if same sex marriage is allowed. Do they seriously think their lives will change one iota either way? It won’t of course so just live and let live, stop worrying about what other people are doing and get on with your own life.

By: martymankins

martymankins — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:55:16 +0000

dagny – Your welcome. It’s amazing how many people don’t realize the civil part in any religious wedding. I like your grandma’s wisdom and fore thought. Very wise person and great advice to follow.

brandon – Thank you. And that’s right, since you’ve not been gone from California that long. And it is stupid.

crys – Thank you. The latest polls (as of 10/8/08) show an advantage to the YES campaign, but that’s based on the amount they’ve raised so far. I hope that changes here in the next couple of weeks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-gaymarriage8-2008oct08,0,1678837.story

avitable – That goes for me, too. A lot of us will be disappointed.

By: Avitable

Avitable — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:30:58 +0000

I will be very disappointed if it passes. That’s just ridiculous.

By: Crys

Crys — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:59:54 +0000

great post; i could not agree more.

how is it polling? what are the chances it will pass?

By: Brandon

Brandon — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:16:45 +0000

Great post, very well said.

We are voting in this election as Californian residents and though we’re bummed we don’t get to vote for our governor here in Washington, we will get to vote against this stupid proposition.

By: Dagny

Dagny — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:07:01 +0000

Thank you for stating this all so concisely. For years, I have presented the argument that in many countries, people have to go through one to two ceromonies. The first is the civil — legal –ceremony. The second is the religious one. The fact that a religious ceremony is not a legal one makes it clear to me that marriage as far as the state is concerned is completely separate — and possibly different — from that of the church. If we are supposed to have separation of church and state, then clearly civil ceremonies should be allowed.

On the religion end? I remind myself of what my Pentecostal grandma tells me. If someone is not hurting you, then why do you care what they do? She also points out that for her, it’s not her place to judge others. Your belief that something is wrong does not give you the right to stop others.